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Press of Atlantic City writes about baseball’s possible return to the city in 2013

Here’s an article that might interest a few of you that enjoy speculating about what the future might hold for the Can-Am League.

New York Mets coach Tom Goodwin played for the Atlantic City Surf in 2005 when he signed this photo

According to an article by Jason Mazda published by the Press of Atlantic City yesterday, it could have a new competitor as early as next season.

Mario Perrucci, a longtime executive with the now-defunct Atlantic City Surf, is working with Frank Boulton – president of the Atlantic League of Professional Base-ball, in which the Surf played – to bring another independent minor-league team to town….

“We’re looking at creating a sort of Atlantic League Professional Baseball 2,” said Boulton, who also owned the Surf from its inception in 1998 until 2006. “That would be some smaller venues that Atlantic City might fit into. It’s a new project that I’m taking a look at, that I’m visiting cities and talking to people about.”

So, what do you think? Can the northeast support more independent league baseball? What might a new league mean for the Can-Am League and the Atlantic League?

 

9 thoughts on “Press of Atlantic City writes about baseball’s possible return to the city in 2013

  1. There’s something called “due diligence.”

    AC didn’t draw well in the Atlantic League, went to the Can Am and didn’t draw there and was gone in two seasons after the drop. Look at the Can Am now and look at the economy now. If Perrucci wanted to try to get back into the Atlantic, I’d say, ‘OK, it’s worth a shot.’ But a new league and given the apparent failure of the Can Am (and my guess is, if he wanted to get back into the Can Am it’d be a losing proposition like the first time) and the current economy?

    I’d say Perrucci didn’t do his due diligence. My guess is that this will likely never get off the ground. Or, if it does, it won’t fly for long.

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  2. I would like to have either the current Atlantic league or the new one at skylands park. The tax issue must be straightened out.skylands park needs more games. Johnny baseball regan Hampton township no.

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    1. The definition of insanity:

      Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

      Baseball in AC? Insanity. I think even an affiliated club would have a rough go. The gamblers won’t be going to the games and the economy around there is generally depressed.

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      1. Atlantic City needs to transform itself into a destination that offers more than just casinos if it’s going to compete with other options for gambling in the area, but I don’t think a low-level baseball team is really a good “first step” in that transformation.

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  3. Las Vegas has a AAA team, far higher up the food chain than an indy–at any level. And I’d venture to say that 99.99% of the tourists don’t go to Vegas for the 51s.

    Gambling’s been in AC for nearly 35 years. The entertainment is largely on weekends. There aren’t any hotels where you can even get an outside show, like the pirate show at Treasure Island, the fountains at the Bellagio or even the Eiffel Tower and Statue of Liberty mockups at New York, New York. All there is is the boardwalk, with the seedy arcades, pizza and taffy joints and tattoo parlors and which pales by comparison (and that’s being generous) with Vegas. And you still shouldn’t go a block off the boardwalk.

    The AC ballpark could be A-AA level at best. And it’s a little bit of a hike from the hotels. So, sorry to say, Paul, that a viable team (and they really haven’t had one yet) wouldn’t be any more than spit in the bucket as far as AC is concerned.

    You can spend a week in Vegas. You can’t spend any more than a weekend in AC. And, for whatever reason–maybe the poverty so close to the hotels and that the city is generally seedy not too far off the boardwalk, the city and state have yet to correct that and make the place a destination. It’s just a place to gamble and maybe catch a show. And, unless something cataclysmic happens, it’ll never be any more than that.

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    1. I think you’re right about what AC currently is, though to be fair it’s been more than 10 years since I’ve actually visited. But AC isn’t just competing with Las Vegas, and that’s why the casinos are in trouble.

      Locally, we’ve got the Connecticut casinos – Mohegan Sun has done a good job of positioning itself as a family entertainment destination. And there are a bunch of other gambling options closer that Las Vegas. That’s what Atlantic City has to worry about.

      A minor league or independent league baseball team could eventually be part of the picture if Atlantic City wants to change its image, but it’s definitely not the first step unless the the prospective owner has enough money to bring in other family-friendly attractions at the same time.

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      1. Paul,

        You’re right; the comparison is more with the Connecticut and Pennsylvania casinos and even Empire City than with Vegas.

        But, back in the ’90s, Vegas tried to push itself as a family-friendly place. And it bombed. It’s for adults, and that’s that. And, as long as gambling is going to be a centerpiece of the operation, then AC and Mohegan Sun and Mount Airy are going to be for adult entertainment.

        There was a time when AC (and Mount Airy, for that matter) was more family-oriented–back in the days of the diving horse and all the rides on the Steel and Million Dollar Piers. I went there back in the ’60s and when it was, unfortunately, starting to go downhill (not unlike the Catskills) and which is why gambling was brought there in the first place.

        The toothpaste is out of the tube in AC and you can’t put it back. It’s a place primarily for gambling. And it’s a place primarily for gambling where old geezers come on the bus from NJ and Philly, spend a few bucks, get comped at the buffet and leave. It has a second-rate airport and the weather isn’t all that attractive most of the year–either cold in the winter or hot and muggy in the summer.

        Translation: It’ll never be appreciably better than it is now. And baseball isn’t going to help.

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      2. One more thing, Paul.

        Atlantic City will always be a second-rate destination.

        It was first-rate, by default, for a while when there was no gambling competition in these parts. As an aside, I refuse to call it “gaming.” If you puts your money down and you takes your chances, it’s “gambling.” But, somewhere, it was decided that taking the “b” out made gambling more palatable. I always thought “gaming” meant something along the lines of “gaming the system.”

        But AC is a parallel universe. So is Vegas, when you get down to it. But, in AC, the border between the parallel universes of money and poor are a block off the boardwalk. And, as long as the parallel universes sit in each other’s laps, AC will always be second-rate.

        Pardon the poor grammar, but baseball ain’t going to help them.

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